we will use the full set of tools available to us. our decision demonstrates this. >> you said that you are investigating companies that have not pulled out of irna. which are those companies? >> 1 strength is that it allows us to have the kind of conversation with these firms as they try to achieve results. we do not think it would be useful to discuss with specific firms. we are engaging compensations. -- conversations. >> to what extent are you concerned there will be a substitution the set for european companies that are pulling out? there are other countries that have oil services. to what extent the do you see t? >> we have made clear that we are strongly discouraging substitutions. we encourage you not to undertake these activities. we make the potential consequences. he is in the process of having consultations with a number of key countries around the world to explain the provisions of the act. >> how you measure how big it can be? >> what would you expect them to say? >> at the end of the day, would most care about is how ir